vernon's sketch
Posted January 18th, 2009 by vernon
Yes, the cooktop in the corner is unorthodox, but it 1) maximizes counter space, 2) uses a wasted corner, and 3) allows the dishwasher to be near the sink.
Also, the sink's peninsula is a little wider than you proposed, but I felt this was okay since venting will waste space under the peninsula (the 2x2 space in the inside corner) and it allows for table facing doors on the other side. It also gives the double ovens a landing zone.
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Mud "room" bumbout
If you did decide to have table come out past the door, something to consider would be to bump out the french doors three feet or so (or basically not crop off so much of your current craft space). So a small 3x8 entry with a bench for shoes and maybe hooks for coats, etc. This would give some extra space to enter and exit around the table.
Corner Cooktop
Another thing to consider about the corner cooktop is venting since it will be further out from the back corner. I think you can find corner hoods, or downdraft venting may be another option. Given how you like to cook with the wok, I think downdraft isn't a good option. I'm not sure if a corner hood would take more wall cabinet space or not. Just something to keep in mind.
Vernon's sketch...
Tom had suggested something similar with the cooktop for our kitchen. I can rework the renderings with something like this to see how it feels in 3D. You mentioned the dishwasher now being able to be close to the sink - it was in the original plan as well, maybe I missed something? Also, some new hardware options make inside corners much less of a waste than before. These new systems will pull all the shelving out in front of the cabinets for easy access, then retire them into the corner when you shut the door. A couple concerns about this approach though:
Re: Vernon's sketch
Yes, in the original drawing, the dishwasher was close to the sink, but if the cooktop was not in the corner (and not taking up prime counter space on the fridge wall), then it would squeeze that side of the U.
Re: Vernon's sketch
I'm not following "the squeeze that side of the U" part.
1. OK. One difference is that the dishwasher door would be at an angle to the cooktop standing space, and might be a tripping hazard.
2. Yeah, mostly a security/convenience issue. You can use welded hinges to make the door secure from the outside, but that also complicates maintenance and repairs. Not a big deal.
3. OK, the table to counter approach works. I am a little concerned that the space to the right of the sink will be awkward to reach since it is in a corner (with no space to stand directly in front of).
I'll draw it up and we'll see what it will look like in 3D. It is a bit unorthodox to have the window as drawn right above the dishwasher, but the important thing is that it works for you. I believe Lauren mentioned something about liking the sink in front of the window, but maybe she'd like the sink facing the public space even better.
Consider an induction cooktop
Something else occurred to me regarding the concern of having enough counter space near the refrigerator. If you used an induction cooktop, it could be used just like a counter top for a landing pad from the refrigerator a lot of the time. Lunches for instance often don't require the stove, and with dinner you often only going to need one or two burners. Anyway, just a thought.
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